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TntHhd · Post by **TntHhd** » February 11th, 2012, 2:44 pm

OK... now a days i've got some doubts about what these songs are...

I'm sure that these songs is Techno-Trance

But how about these ones...

TechnoWolfie · Post by **TechnoWolfie** » February 11th, 2012, 2:46 pm

I would calling flying high a techno trance song but the nightcore vers is way better

Post by **Kestrel0907** » February 11th, 2012, 2:48 pm

The first one is Trance,while the others are (happy)hardcore i suppose.

Website · Post by **Raver** » February 11th, 2012, 3:14 pm

Ravers Fantasy is Techno-Trance;
Flying High is hmm.. something like Dream Trance
All the S3RL's songs are Happy Hardcore

TntHhd · Post by **TntHhd** » February 11th, 2012, 5:51 pm

Raver wrote:Ravers Fantasy is Techno-Trance;
Flying High is hmm.. something like Dream Trance
All the S3RL's songs are Happy Hardcore

hmmm... I'm sure Flying High isn't Dream Trance... i think it's Techno-Trance...

Examples of Dream Trance:

About Ravers Fantasy... maybe Techno-Trance is OK... but maybe it's Happy Hardcore... i can't hear to many characteristics of a trance song in it...

Website · Post by **Raver** » February 11th, 2012, 9:29 pm

Happy hardcore has something like 170 bpm.

Yakkety · Post by **Yakkety** » February 11th, 2012, 9:38 pm

Flying high is Dream Trance, the original song that is, but the Nightcore'd version is more hardcore trance/techno...

Pika girl = happy hardcore ~ chiptune...

Ravers Fantasy, well, this version of that song = Trancecore, the original RF by Nightcore = Trance...

DJ S3RL = Trance/Techno...

Website · Post by **Raver** » February 11th, 2012, 9:42 pm

Yakkety wrote:Flying high is Dream Trance, the original song that is, but the Nightcore'd version is more hardcore trance/techno...

Pika girl = happy hardcore ~ chiptune...

Ravers Fantasy, well, this version of that song = Trancecore, the original RF by Nightcore = Trance...

DJ S3RL = Trance/Techno...

Are you saying that Pika Girl by S3RL is happy hardcore and S3RL is trance/techno? I didn't get it.

Yakkety · Post by **Yakkety** » February 11th, 2012, 9:45 pm

Raver wrote:
Yakkety wrote:Flying high is Dream Trance, the original song that is, but the Nightcore'd version is more hardcore trance/techno...

Pika girl = happy hardcore ~ chiptune...

Ravers Fantasy, well, this version of that song = Trancecore, the original RF by Nightcore = Trance...

DJ S3RL = Trance/Techno...
Are you saying that Pika Girl by S3RL is happy hardcore and S3RL is trance/techno? I didn't get it.

Yes, that's what I was saying, Pika Girl has that happy feeling to it with the correct BPM, and S3RL has the standard techno house vibe along with a nice flow of the BPM, which isnt too fast nor too slow...

TntHhd · Post by **TntHhd** » February 12th, 2012, 8:15 am

Yakkety wrote:
Raver wrote:
Yakkety wrote:Flying high is Dream Trance, the original song that is, but the Nightcore'd version is more hardcore trance/techno...

Pika girl = happy hardcore ~ chiptune...

Ravers Fantasy, well, this version of that song = Trancecore, the original RF by Nightcore = Trance...

DJ S3RL = Trance/Techno...
Are you saying that Pika Girl by S3RL is happy hardcore and S3RL is trance/techno? I didn't get it.
Yes, that's what I was saying, Pika Girl has that happy feeling to it with the correct BPM, and S3RL has the standard techno house vibe along with a nice flow of the BPM, which isnt too fast nor too slow...

I don't think S3rl is a Techno-Trance artist...
These are some of my favs songs from him... and they're not Techno-Trance...

Yakkety · Post by **Yakkety** » February 12th, 2012, 8:19 am

@ Nightcorix:

I know, but Pretty Rave Girl was an original Nightcore song right, DJ S3RL remixed an already trance song, yes his other songs are more techno/happy hardcore, but I do think Pretty Rave Girl DJ S3RL Remix is Techno/trance, well, thats my opinion, to say the least...

It doesnt really always matter on what kind of genre the artist is focused on, as a breakcore artist could just as well make happy hardcore, hardstyle or even house, but of course, it all depends on whether it will be good or not...

TntHhd · Post by **TntHhd** » February 12th, 2012, 9:27 am

Yakkety wrote:I know, but Pretty Rave Girl was an original Nightcore song right

Nope...
Idk if Nightcore made a version of it but sry :(... I pasted the wrong song... The one i pasted was the original from Basshunter or I-Am-X-Ray... idk who... this is S3rl remix:

http://soundcloud.com/s3rl/pretty-rave- ... short-edit

*And he categorized his song like UK Hardcore

Yakkety · Post by **Yakkety** » February 12th, 2012, 9:38 am

Well the original 'original' song for pretty rave girl is 'Dota' from Basshunter, and many remixes and mash ups have been made of that song, I can't post a link to the youtube vid now as I'm posting this from my phone, but a quick search for 'basshunter dota' will lead you to the original...

Website · Post by **Raver** » February 12th, 2012, 10:22 am

The original is Daddy DJ by Daddy DJ, also, Nightcore didn't make a version of Pretty Rave Girl, it's a fanmade song.

Here is a thread with all the original Nightcore songs: http://nightcoreuniverse.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=930#

Yakkety · Post by **Yakkety** » February 12th, 2012, 10:34 am

Daddy DJ ey? Hmmm, never heard of him actually, I'll listen to him when I get home, my excuses for bringing in false information...

Qoolioz · Post by **Qoolioz** » October 22nd, 2012, 9:01 am

DJ Constacreast mostly produce Dream Trance.
DJ Splash and Manian produce Eurodance and Hands UP
S3RL produce Happy Hardcore (UK Hardcore)

Post by **Kestrel0907** » October 23rd, 2012, 9:33 am

Qoolioz wrote:DJ Splash and Manian produce Eurodance and Hands UP

Yeah, everyone confuses hands up/eurodance with (euro)trance, i tried explaining it to them but i got my comment deleted lol.
Eurotrance is just a messed up term for the trance music in Europe(Armin van Buuren, Paul van dyk...) invented by americans, it isn't really a subgenre of trance, it is unknown why the wikipedia added it and named it as the same genre of handsup, but many complained about this.
Handsup once had it's own page in wikipedia including where it originated(Germany), the bpm.
It once contained information about Rob Mayth, Special D, Manian...etc but it is now considered the same genre as "eurotrance".
E.g:

And all the Dj Splash, Dj Squash(and other independent artists), (the old)Cascada, (the old)Basshunter, and what you can find on youtube that's similar.
The only wikia's about handsup are the German, Finland, Italy and possibly the french one(i can't find it right now).
Even most of the nightcores are handsup(there are actual trance songs nightcored, but very few in number).
If you're having problem knowing the differences between them, it's very simple:
Handsup usually has that brrr bass, and uses echoeing synthesizers(the zst melodies you hear), sometimes hardstyle(for example deepforces has a combined handsup-hardstyle style e.g: 1), 2)) elements are used, and if you listen carefully some even use jumpstyle kicks(the kicks are the BOH you hear at any track).
A great example would be Dual Playaz - Tune, the kicks are taken from the jumpstyle genre, they sound like BOU(yeah, it's also a dance called jumptstyle), because of this it is unknown whether it's jumpstyle or handsup(or probably it's quite handsup because of the brr bass and the melody wich is quite handsupish):

Handsup is more like a slower and much more melodic Uk(or happy if you wish) Hardcore, Uk hardcore has a much more faster melody and has a much more tougher bass(It's like a DRRRRR) and kicks.
E.g:
S3rl:

Darren Styles:

(If you want more UK hardcore search for them on youtube and wikipedia(jordesuvi is a good uk hardcore uploader))
Trance is just a more relaxing genre(but still fast) with repeated arpegios, a great example for it would be Armin Van Buuren's podcast(note that the old trance sounded more different, and when some when fastened up sound like a cutened uk hardcore/Handsup track(but without the exact elements of handsup)E.G: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ma3o70Mcbg , original track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fxcq4zpN_Y (THIS IS THE OBJECTIVE OF NIGHTCORE NOT THOSE ROCK/HOUSE/HEAVY METAL SONGS)):

ALSO TECHNO IS A VERY SLOWER MUSIC THAN YOU THINK IT IS(since it's quite the very first genre of the electronic genre duh)so if anyone talks about the real techno, HE MEANS IT, the "techno" mixes recently named this way are more handsup/jumpstyle/uk hardcore songs.
E.g:

P.S:DO NOT become butthurt or something like that stating:lul wtf is this poophead talking about, your wrong, i was the same as you, but then after some time, (and hundreds of songs) i found out wich is that and that, and this is the actual TRUTH.
And,in case you're wondering,this is jumpstyle(the music):

The dance:

Edit:Yeah, the text is quite a mess, sorry ,but i don't have that time to arrange them.

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