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LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 12th, 2014, 4:48 pm

Hey everyone.

First off (A little about me) , I wanted too cover that "nightcore" really does have several different variations of it. I think we can mostly agree it has to do with 1 or more of the singers sounding "anime" like for a rough base. Therefore there are quite a few different versions of nightcore.

The only "cheating" version I have a serious pet peeve about is when a person simply speeds up a song and calls it nightcore DX!!! HATE that... It's not nightcore....

Anywho, the best personally to me, is when they make it sound animeish, and remix it in an epic way. <3

I however, am not good with remixing songs at all, tried it.. suck at it... I'm a video editor by nature, I make videos randomly for fun, though my earlier ones are much better, and most of those unfortunately were taken off of youtube... :(

That being said, I have started to do some Nightcoreing myself.

My Nightcore's are based on keeping the same beat of the song, not changing it at all, but making it sound more animeish but still fit. I do this several different ways. Sometimes I make both the guy and girl sound animeish, sometimes just the girl, or I'll go full on Anime. Depending on what fits the feel of the song.

First one I did, may be a little lacking and not enough Animeish to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=284tPO-2oB4

Stamp on the Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS6HInKom3I

Around the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgv7P-A1E7Q

Bad Reputation (Kinda sounds like a little 8yr old just going off, pretty cute)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya45dl3hhB0

Carri bean Blue (Enya)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgBR_N_xXR4

Sail Away(Orinoco Flow) By Enya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iex3yzot3u8

Inside Out (First Attempt at animeing a male voice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpibftJ1Qro

Applause by Lady Gaga (I tried too not alter her voice too much, and focused more on the chorus as anime at about 1:08 the background chorus is a good example of what I mean)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLCpD3W1SY8

Push me - Madonna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQldvXKgrg

Tell me love isn't true
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/sxebybb ... t+true.mp3

You make me feel (Attempted to alter just the female's voice to sound animeish but still fit the music over all)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYdYe4w2Yak



Note: I don't want too argue what is and isn't Nightcore, and whether these songs are or are not Nightcore. As it's pretty silly and ridiculous to do so imo.

I'll give this point here as an explanation, and leave it at that. If you have constructive criticism, please by all means let me know, I'm open too suggestions.

Since a few people have been "discussing" with me if my songs are Nightcore or not in the first 2 pages, I will leave it at this.
hko2006 wrote:
Well I wonder am I the other person XD



Before reading this reply please read the NIGHTCORE POSTING REGULATIONS (READ BEFORE POSTING!) thingy,
I just finished reading it, I think you should too.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349

Now I assume you have read it.

Chop is consider to be one of the NU members consider nightcore is/should be/will be sped up any songs while majority of the members here stick with "nightcore is techno/dance", including myself.
In one of the your video, I commented "very interesting nightcore you are making" because there was YouTube and that is kinda pointless/annoying/frustrating to spam to every sped up pop/rock/metal/hip hop/rap/instrumental/dubstep/house/folk/r&b/d&b/country music uploaders who tag their uploads to be nightcore, but now you are here. Sorry we have been asking you to read a lot of stuff but this is the only way, or you can listen too?
here are some great channels, listen more to their uploads if you haven't yet
https://www.youtube.com/user/hko2006/about

There are so many threads arguing the same thing so I just post the link here
even the same argument is not the same but you may got the point.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... 882#p15882
I have read it, and I believe my songs fall under the category of Nightcore. Plain and simple. It's a basic version of Nightcore, but Nightcore none the less, or if you want to argue, a normal song with a splash of nightcore, however you want too categorize it. I won't argue anything past this. Nightcore is Nightcore, you can tear it apart all you want, but if you're going too rip it apart at that level I could argue why half of the songs in all of the genre's don't fit for various miniscule reasons, but that would be ridiculous to do.

My songs are Nightcore, because it fits what the original Nightcores did first before expanding, if that's not enough for you, they simply don't fit anywhere else... and fit best under the genre of "Nightcore".

Then again, you could argue Nightcore itself is not a genre.... because all you're doing is taking already existing songs and just re editing them... to be fully blunt..

I think people need to step back and not be so hard about what is and isn't nightcore. The only reason my pet peeve about "speeding up a song" isn't Nightcore and I hate that, is because it takes literally no effort to do what so ever, and isn't editing the song in anyway shape or form so I don't count it myself.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Chop » March 12th, 2014, 4:58 pm

Welcome to the forums man. Yeah, I like it when nightcore sounds like anime characters are singing as well.

Anyway, I listened to most of your uploads and I gotta say you have quite a diverse selection of genres. While I'm more of a rap person, it's cool that you covered different types of music.

Lovin your nightcore so far, you keep doin what you doin, aight?

Peace dog!
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 12th, 2014, 5:37 pm

Thanks Chop!

I'm still open to suggestions of anything I can do too better my songs as well, I'm glad you enjoyed it though and had the insight to see it for what it was, even if you didn't like the genre's per say. <3
Chop

Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Chop » March 12th, 2014, 5:39 pm

LadyAthena wrote:Thanks Chop!

I'm still open to suggestions of anything I can do too better my songs as well, I'm glad you enjoyed it though and had the insight to see it for what it was, even if you didn't like the genre's per say. <3
Actually, I'm open to all kinds of music. Rap just happens to be my favorite genre. You doin good so far, so keep it up!
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Zurd » March 13th, 2014, 6:50 am

Hi and welcome on NU LadyAthena!

Pretty much all of your remix are not Nightcore, thus not allowed here.

Read this for the complete definition :
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/nightcore
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... f=17&t=930

p.s. as for Stamp on the ground, that's Nightcore, however it's been done countless of times and your version is... the worst I ever heard :-( Sorry but I had to say it. Problem is there's a lot of distortion in it and it's not fast enough, did you speed up by only 3% that song?!
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by HKO2006 » March 13th, 2014, 7:44 am

He/she only pitch up the songs, no change to speed as he/she told me here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYdYe4w2Yak
Welcome to Nightcore Universe! Enjoy your stay as much as you enjoy the original Nightcore songs!
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Speeding up seems to be a little magic making things a little bit more appealing.

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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Zurd » March 13th, 2014, 7:54 am

Definitely not nightcore then...
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 13th, 2014, 8:49 am

Zurd wrote:Hi and welcome on NU LadyAthena!

Pretty much all of your remix are not Nightcore, thus not allowed here.

Read this for the complete definition :
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/nightcore
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... f=17&t=930

p.s. as for Stamp on the ground, that's Nightcore, however it's been done countless of times and your version is... the worst I ever heard :-( Sorry but I had to say it. Problem is there's a lot of distortion in it and it's not fast enough, did you speed up by only 3% that song?!
#1 Nightcore isn't about speeding up the song

#2 proper true nightcore when it was first established was a remix of a sing into a hip-hop and or trance style beat with anime like tones and sounds too the voices.... I know all about Nightcore and how it transpired from the Norwegian guys, I'm not dumb about the genre.

#3 The distortion in Stamp on the Ground is due to me being new at the time of editing the music to sound animeish. As you can see I've gotten alot better if you listen too the other songs.

Putting these into consideration, my style is a mix of nightcore, not straight nightcore, but not not nightcore either.

Speeding up a song does not make it nightcore in anyway shape or form.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 13th, 2014, 8:50 am

hko2006 wrote:He/she only pitch up the songs, no change to speed as he/she told me here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYdYe4w2Yak
I don't just pitch the sound, as that would cause distortion and speeding up of the song. I have to do more than that.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 13th, 2014, 8:58 am

hko2006 wrote:He/she only pitch up the songs, no change to speed as he/she told me here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYdYe4w2Yak
Funny thing is Hko... you commented on my video BEFORE I found this site... XD
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by HKO2006 » March 13th, 2014, 9:40 am

All replies in one would be better imo, make use of the edit function. :)

You are partly right, Nightcore first made songs into nightcore style is because of the following songs:
Nightcore wrote: We liked Scooter and his high-pitched vocals. There were so few of these kinds of artists, we thought that mixing music in our style would be a pleasure for us to listen to.
And the way they mix music is by speeding up the songs, therefore nightcore style is essentially to speed up the songs.

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Welcome to Nightcore Universe! Enjoy your stay as much as you enjoy the original Nightcore songs!
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Speeding up seems to be a little magic making things a little bit more appealing.

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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 13th, 2014, 3:45 pm

hko2006 wrote:All replies in one would be better imo, make use of the edit function. :)

You are partly right, Nightcore first made songs into nightcore style is because of the following songs:
Nightcore wrote: We liked Scooter and his high-pitched vocals. There were so few of these kinds of artists, we thought that mixing music in our style would be a pleasure for us to listen to.
And the way they mix music is by speeding up the songs, therefore nightcore style is essentially to speed up the songs.

Read more
http://www.knowyourmeme.com/memes/nightcore#scooter
mmm I actually didn't know about those songs, I was refering too the ones where they did not speed it up, but altered the sound. Learn something new everyday.

Regardless, I think I've proved my style of Nightcore is in-fact, "old school" Nightcore. And yes I need too use better function of the edit button, bad habit.
Chop

Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Chop » March 13th, 2014, 6:21 pm

LadyAthena wrote: mmm I actually didn't know about those songs, I was refering too the ones where they did not speed it up, but altered the sound. Learn something new everyday.

Regardless, I think I've proved my style of Nightcore is in-fact, "old school" Nightcore. And yes I need too use better function of the edit button, bad habit.
Just increasing the tempo and pitch is good enough to call a song nightcore. Some people add beats of their own to the song, which is fine as well; you don't have to do that though.

Even though nightcore seems to have been originally techno, trance, etc, times have changed, and as you've probably seen on Youtube, it has expanded into other genres.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 13th, 2014, 6:51 pm

Chop wrote:
LadyAthena wrote: mmm I actually didn't know about those songs, I was refering too the ones where they did not speed it up, but altered the sound. Learn something new everyday.

Regardless, I think I've proved my style of Nightcore is in-fact, "old school" Nightcore. And yes I need too use better function of the edit button, bad habit.
Just increasing the tempo and pitch is good enough to call a song nightcore. Some people add beats of their own to the song, which is fine as well; you don't have to do that though.

Even though nightcore seems to have been originally techno, trance, etc, times have changed, and as you've probably seen on Youtube, it has expanded into other genres.
It has, thank you for the support, my heart kinda dropped seeing the responses after you, but my style is more of an older version of nightcore. I simply don't have the knowledge of music to put in my own beats, or remix properly.. yet anyway.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Zurd » March 14th, 2014, 7:25 am

LadyAthena wrote:Regardless, I think I've proved my style of Nightcore is in-fact, "old school" Nightcore.
No, I'm not convinced. I didn't see nothing that backs what you're saying.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 14th, 2014, 2:36 pm

Zurd wrote:
LadyAthena wrote:Regardless, I think I've proved my style of Nightcore is in-fact, "old school" Nightcore.
No, I'm not convinced. I didn't see nothing that backs what you're saying.
Then read the rest of this thread, as both chop and another person has given links which match what I've done that is Nightcore.

If you don't like my style that's fine, it's your preference, but doesn't make it any less Nightcore.

Being rude about it like you were, and plugging your ears with your fingers and going "la la la la I can't hear anything you're saying its not nightcore! la la la la la" isn't doing anyone any good.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Zurd » March 14th, 2014, 3:06 pm

What the Nightcore group did is speeding up songs and that's why Nightcore is sped up songs. Listen to the albums they made and you will see that I'm right.

You think otherwise? Send me the link that proves it. I never heard of a song by the group Nightcore where they just change the pitch.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by HKO2006 » March 14th, 2014, 4:03 pm

LadyAthena wrote:
Zurd wrote:
LadyAthena wrote:Regardless, I think I've proved my style of Nightcore is in-fact, "old school" Nightcore.
No, I'm not convinced. I didn't see nothing that backs what you're saying.
Then read the rest of this thread, as both chop and another person has given links which match what I've done that is Nightcore.

If you don't like my style that's fine, it's your preference, but doesn't make it any less Nightcore.

Being rude about it like you were, and plugging your ears with your fingers and going "la la la la I can't hear anything you're saying its not nightcore! la la la la la" isn't doing anyone any good.
Well I wonder am I the other person XD



Before reading this reply please read the NIGHTCORE POSTING REGULATIONS (READ BEFORE POSTING!) thingy,
I just finished reading it, I think you should too.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349

Now I assume you have read it.

Chop is consider to be one of the NU members consider nightcore is/should be/will be sped up any songs while majority of the members here stick with "nightcore is techno/dance", including myself.
In one of the your video, I commented "very interesting nightcore you are making" because there was YouTube and that is kinda pointless/annoying/frustrating to spam to every sped up pop/rock/metal/hip hop/rap/instrumental/dubstep/house/folk/r&b/d&b/country music uploaders who tag their uploads to be nightcore, but now you are here. Sorry we have been asking you to read a lot of stuff but this is the only way, or you can listen too?
here are some great channels, listen more to their uploads if you haven't yet
https://www.youtube.com/user/hko2006/about

There are so many threads arguing the same thing so I just post the link here
even the same argument is not the same but you may got the point.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... 882#p15882
Welcome to Nightcore Universe! Enjoy your stay as much as you enjoy the original Nightcore songs!
Useful threads/links
What is Nightcore 101
Nightcore Channel Database
Nightcore Know Your Meme
How to make Nightcore (NIGHTCORE TUTORIAL) UPDATED
Speeding up seems to be a little magic making things a little bit more appealing.

Chop

Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by Chop » March 14th, 2014, 5:20 pm

Whether you use Audacity or Wavepad, there are no magic numbers for nightcoring. Each song is different from one another. Each person has different ears than another person. OP, the best advice I can give you is to do whatever fits best for you. It's your nightcores, so you're the judge. You ultimately make the final decisions.

In the United States, we have something called the Free Exercise Clause, which means that your beliefs are protected. So you have the right to your beliefs about nightcore, and they cannot be taken away. So if you believe that nightcored songs sound better with minimal speed increase, so be it. That's your belief, and you should have the right to believe in it.

I don't feel like making a long elaborate post right now, so I'll just wrap it up here. The main idea of this post is that you should do whatever's best for you.
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Re: LadyAthena's Unique Nightcore

Post by LadyAthena » March 14th, 2014, 5:39 pm

hko2006 wrote:
Well I wonder am I the other person XD



Before reading this reply please read the NIGHTCORE POSTING REGULATIONS (READ BEFORE POSTING!) thingy,
I just finished reading it, I think you should too.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... =11&t=1349

Now I assume you have read it.

Chop is consider to be one of the NU members consider nightcore is/should be/will be sped up any songs while majority of the members here stick with "nightcore is techno/dance", including myself.
In one of the your video, I commented "very interesting nightcore you are making" because there was YouTube and that is kinda pointless/annoying/frustrating to spam to every sped up pop/rock/metal/hip hop/rap/instrumental/dubstep/house/folk/r&b/d&b/country music uploaders who tag their uploads to be nightcore, but now you are here. Sorry we have been asking you to read a lot of stuff but this is the only way, or you can listen too?
here are some great channels, listen more to their uploads if you haven't yet
https://www.youtube.com/user/hko2006/about

There are so many threads arguing the same thing so I just post the link here
even the same argument is not the same but you may got the point.
http://www.nightcoreuniverse.net/viewto ... 882#p15882
I have read it, and I believe my songs fall under the category of Nightcore. Plain and simple. It's a basic version of Nightcore, but Nightcore none the less, or if you want to argue, a normal song with a splash of nightcore, however you want too categorize it. I won't argue anything past this. Nightcore is Nightcore, you can tear it apart all you want, but if you're going too rip it apart at that level I could argue why half of the songs in all of the genre's don't fit for various miniscule reasons, but that would be ridiculous to do.

My songs are Nightcore, because it fits what the original Nightcores did first before expanding, if that's not enough for you, they simply don't fit anywhere else... and fit best under the genre of "Nightcore".

Then again, you could argue Nightcore itself is not a genre.... because all you're doing is taking already existing songs and just re editing them... to be fully blunt..

I think people need to step back and not be so hard about what is and isn't nightcore. The only reason my pet peeve about "speeding up a song" isn't Nightcore and I hate that, is because it takes literally no effort to do what so ever, and isn't editing the song in anyway shape or form so I don't count it myself.

Now please, lets drop the discussion. Compared too 70% of the songs on youtube, and Nightcore channels, my songs are Nightcore, by sound, and definition. They are different yes, but they are essentially the same thing, just not splashed with some extra chords, and additional sounds put in by me. The one thing that holds true too all Nightcores, is that it sounds Animeish, plain and simple. That is the 1 golden rule.
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