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Postby thecad » February 18th, 2014, 1:57 pm

First of all we're sorry for the spam wave we're experiencing.

I just wanted to let you guys know that we did take did increase the security, and that it indeed worked.
The spam that's going on at the moment are accounts that were created, but stayed hidden in the member list.
Since we added the security update we've not seen 1 spam bot register.

Right now we're working at deleting the spam topic and accounts. When we're done with that the spam will be gone.

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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby HKO2006 » February 18th, 2014, 3:14 pm

Yeah! A spam free NU. :D
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Zurd » February 18th, 2014, 7:03 pm

but but ... I really wanted a louis vutton handbag and more news of jimmy choo! :)
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Fernandez » February 19th, 2014, 3:28 am

thecad wrote:First of all we're sorry for the spam wave we're experiencing.

I just wanted to let you guys know that we did take did increase the security, and that it indeed worked.
The spam that's going on at the moment are accounts that were created, but stayed hidden in the member list.
Since we added the security update we've not seen 1 spam bot register.

Right now we're working at deleting the spam topic and accounts. When we're done with that the spam will be gone.

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I think the registration questions are a good idea, but I think some of them could be too hard. For example, right now, if I log out and go to the area where you create an account, I get a question like "Who is the co-founder of Valve Corporation?" or something like that. If I was a completely new user who hasn't created an account yet, I would have no idea what the answer is.

Another registration question I saw was something like "Who produced the song Everytime We Touch?" There's multiple songs with that title. How would people know which artist to choose?

One type of registration question that has worked with other forums I visit is that the answer is in the question. These types are very easy for humans to figure out, but hard for bots to answer.

Examples:

Q: Mary had a little lamb. What kind of animal did Mary have?
A: Lamb

Q: Hickory dickory dock. The mouse ran up the clock. What did the mouse run up?
A: Clock
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby MagicScream » February 19th, 2014, 9:06 am

Fernandez wrote:
thecad wrote:First of all we're sorry for the spam wave we're experiencing.

I just wanted to let you guys know that we did take did increase the security, and that it indeed worked.
The spam that's going on at the moment are accounts that were created, but stayed hidden in the member list.
Since we added the security update we've not seen 1 spam bot register.

Right now we're working at deleting the spam topic and accounts. When we're done with that the spam will be gone.

---'TheCad'---

I think the registration questions are a good idea, but I think some of them could be too hard. For example, right now, if I log out and go to the area where you create an account, I get a question like "Who is the co-founder of Valve Corporation?" or something like that. If I was a completely new user who hasn't created an account yet, I would have no idea what the answer is.

Another registration question I saw was something like "Who produced the song Everytime We Touch?" There's multiple songs with that title. How would people know which artist to choose?

One type of registration question that has worked with other forums I visit is that the answer is in the question. These types are very easy for humans to figure out, but hard for bots to answer.

Examples:

Q: Mary had a little lamb. What kind of animal did Mary have?
A: Lamb

Q: Hickory dickory dock. The mouse ran up the clock. What did the mouse run up?
A: Clock

I think the reason why the questions might be somewhat difficult is because these days, bots can be so sophisticated. They can get through CAPTCHA's and "type the word" security like it's nothing. I've seen forums use simple math problems as security, yet they still have a spam problem. Easy common knowledge questions (i.e. What color is an apple? or What is the capital of France?) are probably not much better.

If a question doesn't require a user to go deep into the web, a spambot could probably crack it.
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby I Am Arthur Clark » February 19th, 2014, 9:15 am

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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Raver » February 19th, 2014, 5:38 pm

Fernandez wrote:
thecad wrote:First of all we're sorry for the spam wave we're experiencing.

I just wanted to let you guys know that we did take did increase the security, and that it indeed worked.
The spam that's going on at the moment are accounts that were created, but stayed hidden in the member list.
Since we added the security update we've not seen 1 spam bot register.

Right now we're working at deleting the spam topic and accounts. When we're done with that the spam will be gone.

---'TheCad'---

I think the registration questions are a good idea, but I think some of them could be too hard. For example, right now, if I log out and go to the area where you create an account, I get a question like "Who is the co-founder of Valve Corporation?" or something like that. If I was a completely new user who hasn't created an account yet, I would have no idea what the answer is.

Another registration question I saw was something like "Who produced the song Everytime We Touch?" There's multiple songs with that title. How would people know which artist to choose?

One type of registration question that has worked with other forums I visit is that the answer is in the question. These types are very easy for humans to figure out, but hard for bots to answer.

Examples:

Q: Mary had a little lamb. What kind of animal did Mary have?
A: Lamb

Q: Hickory dickory dock. The mouse ran up the clock. What did the mouse run up?
A: Clock


I thought the same at the beginning, but then I realized the bots are really smart nowadays. I think they might even find out our answers in the future. I don't know how the forum engine works, but I believe it doesn't have a attempt limit, so they can just write a lot of things (the most common answers for example). Maybe in these math questions they don't really do the math, they just type a lot of numbers and one of them is right. If I'm right, it wouldn't be much to think that they would type the words I used in the question, so your idea wouldn't work anyways (if I'm right of course). But anyways, kestrel and I made these questions and were able to answer all of them by using google in less than 20s, so I'm pretty sure the new members can deal with that. If they don't want to spend some seconds, I don't want these lazy shit here. (jk i do ç_ç)
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Zurd » February 20th, 2014, 12:49 am

It is definitely possible to write a bot that will brute-force the question by answering every possible solution. It is, however, not practical, because the bot need to hit "Submit" everytime, download a new webpage, try a new solution and the cycle repeat. When it download the new page, there's a delay. What I mean is that it cannot try 1,000 guesses in 2 seconds.

So having simple questions that are not found on other websites will be enough and will help new members create an account. There shouldn't be a question where the user need to google it.

Plus the fact where thecad said that some accounts we're already created but hidden are now deleted will help a lot.

I think I said it before but I'll say it again, spam are not always from a bot, it can be from a real human, either they are paid from it or force to do it. So whatever you implement can be broken. But that's why we have moderators :)
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Tennessee Titans » March 13th, 2014, 1:11 am

Sometimes, at the bottom of the screen, there are names such as Bing [Bot] and Google [Bot]. Are those the bots responsible for the spam?
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Raver » March 13th, 2014, 7:51 am

Tennessee Titans wrote:Sometimes, at the bottom of the screen, there are names such as Bing [Bot] and Google [Bot]. Are those the bots responsible for the spam?


No, the spambots have usernames like wsenem0hv, wsenem5gn, wsenem9nx, etc.

These are just tools that are updating the database of these sites, so you can find this forum when searching for nightcore and other things related.
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Namahage » March 25th, 2014, 5:53 am

I know this thread is pretty old now, but I've got some questions regarding the spambots.

Is it possible for NU to report the people behind the bots (and any future spam/spambots) to the police? Can't the people creating and using the spambots go to jail for their actions?
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Raver » March 25th, 2014, 5:55 am

Namahage wrote:I know this thread is pretty old now, but I've got some questions regarding the spambots.

Is it possible for NU to report the people behind the bots (and any future spam/spambots) to the police? Can't the people creating and using the spambots go to jail for their actions?


No.
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby Namahage » March 25th, 2014, 6:00 am

Raver wrote:
Namahage wrote:I know this thread is pretty old now, but I've got some questions regarding the spambots.

Is it possible for NU to report the people behind the bots (and any future spam/spambots) to the police? Can't the people creating and using the spambots go to jail for their actions?


No.

Ah, okay. I was asking because I've seen other forums saying that moderators can report people like spammers to their ISP and things like that.

Thanks for the answer.
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby HKO2006 » April 24th, 2014, 3:28 am

Just found out typo.
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Re: According the ongoing spam!

Postby HKO2006 » April 27th, 2014, 2:49 am

Or that wich is meant to avoid bots auto searching the correct answer?
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