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Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user uploads

Postby HKO2006 » May 7th, 2015, 2:59 pm

As all the non nightcore thread bury the actual ones, I suggest we either move them away (not delete) or make the nightcore threads always on top (the function is called highlight I guess).

Especially the ones that just came, post then go and never come back. So let's say if the poster haven't log in for 3 months and their thread is not nightcore, then the threads will be moved.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby Fernandez » May 7th, 2015, 4:49 pm

This is probably going to pain most (if not, all) of us, but I feel like there's going to be a point where we'll just going to have to bite the bullet and set up a place/section for "fake nightcore". For one thing, it'll make the user uploads section more cleaner.

I noticed that a lot of new members post then leave. The purpose of replying and giving feedback is to tell the new members what's working and what isn't, but it does no good if they aren't going to come back and read the replies.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 7th, 2015, 5:09 pm

They are some hidden sub boards that only NU members can access to, but not visible on the index page. The moved thread can still be found if you found how to get to there. And the member have their threads moved can still access to it with 'View your posts' next to User Control Panel and 0 new messages.
ie the best place to hide posts.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby Zurd » May 7th, 2015, 8:17 pm

Creating a new subforums for fake nightcore is a good idea. Just need a place where it can go and a name for it cuz fake is quite negative.

My suggestion would be not to put it in the Nightcore subforum because it's not Nightcore. It should go into the Community and in there a new subforum for "Nightcore (Other genre)"
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby emilemil1 » May 7th, 2015, 8:18 pm

"Hiding" the threads won't solve anything. You're basically telling them "we're not going to delete your thread, but we are going to shove it away to this dark and distant corner of the forum where it will spend the rest of it's life together with all of the other exiled fake Nightcore threads."

You might as well give them a fat middle finger and delete their thread.

If we're going to approve of fake Nightcore (as in letting it exist on the forum along with all other musical genres, not as in accepting the naming scheme), then we really need to treat it in the same way that we treat any other non-Nightcore genre. We have links on the front page for "Techno/Trance", "Other Genres" and a user upload section for self-produced songs of any kind, so at the very least we've got to give fake Nightcore that same visibility. If we don't, then the uploaders who come here will just leave, because they won't feel accepted.

Additionally, we need a good name for fake Nightcore, something we can call it that's not loaded with negativity.

The hatred is ingrained pretty hard in NU culture ^^
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 7th, 2015, 9:03 pm

Zurd wrote:My suggestion would be not to put it in the Nightcore subforum because it's not Nightcore. It should go into the Community and in there a new subforum for "Nightcore (Other genre)"

That would be like admitting 'other genre' is considered nightcore too. I avoid saying trance nightcore / hands up nightcore as readers may think so there are different genres of nightcore so any other genres are just as same as nightcore.

emilemil1 wrote:"Hiding" the threads won't solve anything. You're basically telling them "we're not going to delete your thread, but we are going to shove it away to this dark and distant corner of the forum where it will spend the rest of it's life together with all of the other exiled fake Nightcore threads."

You might as well give them a fat middle finger and delete their thread.

If we're going to approve of fake Nightcore (as in letting it exist on the forum along with all other musical genres, not as in accepting the naming scheme), then we really need to treat it in the same way that we treat any other non-Nightcore genre. We have links on the front page for "Techno/Trance", "Other Genres" and a user uploads section for self-produced songs of any kind, so at the very least we've got to give fake Nightcore that same visibility. If we don't, then the uploaders who come here will just leave, because they won't feel accepted.

Additionally, we need a good name for fake Nightcore, something we can call it that's not loaded with negativity.

The hatred is ingrained pretty hard in NU culture ^^


Well it does not matter if the OP do not come back so they don't know anyways. And the original idea is to do housekeeping in nightcore user uploads. But anyway we have back to the 'other genre' uploads section/sub board discussion so here we go and below is an old thread for the context.
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http://nightcoreuniverse.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3970

Back to my thoughts. As emilemil1 mentioned in chat, it is better to keep your 'enemy' near so you can monitor it. I agree with that. The idea of having a speed edit sub board is to keep them who would otherwise be gone because they have no place here. Going back to the idea of my first thread on NU, is to keep them here so hopefully they will understand it.

Another point to have a speed edit sub board is, to admit different people have different preference in music but we are not keeping them away just because they like other speed edit songs. For examples, I would help Chinese to find nightcore songs (YouTube and mp3 sites are blocked by Great Firewall). If the songs are not nightcore I would add the DI link and a nightcore wiki link, telling them it is not nightcore but speed edit. And in the Chinese nightcore IM group, sometimes someone do speed edits and share them. I am cool with it as long as they know it is not nightcore.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby Zurd » May 7th, 2015, 9:07 pm

We're going nowhere. If you think making a subforum for fake nightcore is a bad idea just say so. Else post a suggestion on what to do.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 7th, 2015, 9:24 pm

It is not bad to do it just how to do it well. Like name of the sub board, how to attract new member to use, make them feel accepted while not giving up our ideas.
One thing with no objection so far is, nightcore user upload need a clean up.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 28th, 2015, 3:51 pm

OR open a new section eg Endorsed/Recommended Nigthcore Channels and rename the current section to New Channels (ok, I am bad at naming).
No one can open thread there, just reply. Threads have to be moved by the mods from New Channels to there, after the examination and approval from the community. So the the good channels won't be buried by all the new channels and got promoted. One drawback is this would (slightly) increase mods workload.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby Zurd » May 28th, 2015, 5:14 pm

Quite an increase of work for this suggestion unfortunately.

What about leaving "User Uploads" in the Nightcore subforum like it is. And adding a new subforum in Community which would be simply called "User Uploads" for everything non-nightcore. Then I can just move all the thread not related to Nightcore there. It's a bit confusing having the same subforum name but until we figure out a better name, this would be a good start.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 28th, 2015, 5:20 pm

That would be more work for you!
From newcomer's view, they believe they are uploading nightcore so ofc they are making threads in nightcore user upload. Which unfortunately 9 out of 10 are not nightcore, and you need to deal with them every week.
More unfortunately, the number of new nightcore channels coming here is very small like one every month. So the workload is much smaller after the initial start of the new section.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby Zurd » May 28th, 2015, 5:27 pm

I'd be willing to do it but you have a good plan there.

So what about we take the current "User Uploads" in "Nightcore" and put it in "Community".

Then, like you said, we created a new subforum in "Nightcore" which would be called "Nightcore Channels". No one can post new thread there, they can only reply. And I will manually move the nightcore channel from "User Uploads" to "Nightcore Channels".
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 28th, 2015, 5:39 pm

Good idea! One thing concerns me is the position of the User Uploads in Community. I suggest between Red Carpet and YouTube Discussion.

We also need a reminder redirecting newcomers to User Uploads in Community instead of staring at Nightcore Channels wondering how to make a thread.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby emilemil1 » May 28th, 2015, 6:03 pm

instead of staring at Nightcore Channels wondering how to make a thread.

This is what is going to happen, or they're going to post in Nightcore General. As you said, they believe that they are sharing Nightcore, so they are going to look for a section under the "Nightcore" label where they can post their stuff.

So why not put a subforum in Nightcore Channels that's only for applications. If the channel is approved, bump it up, otherwise simply leave it there. That should be more visible and less confusing than putting the application section under an entirely different label.
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Re: Current policy on not nightcore in nightcore user upload

Postby HKO2006 » May 28th, 2015, 6:27 pm

From what I read, you mean keep user upload in nightcore, just open a new subforum?
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