New Nightcore Article Discussion
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New Nightcore Article Discussion
So guys, a person on Soundcloud runs this site, where he wrote an article about Nightcore:
- http://nesthq.com/nightcore
Now there are a few points the writer discusses. Mostly the Soundcloud movement and the fact Nightcore is a genre in his eyes and the eyes of others. And Nightcore from different genres than we're used to speed up.
Maikel was interviewed, and so was HKO. The writer was briefly online on here, and even I had a long chat with him.
Now, reading it I already had a few points I'd like to discuss. What did you guys think after reading that?
I believe there should've been said more about our point of view. Did it do us justice?
Was Nightcore really that underground? I mean, the millions and millions of views proofs it otherwise, right?
Anyway guys, let's discuss this.
- http://nesthq.com/nightcore
Now there are a few points the writer discusses. Mostly the Soundcloud movement and the fact Nightcore is a genre in his eyes and the eyes of others. And Nightcore from different genres than we're used to speed up.
Maikel was interviewed, and so was HKO. The writer was briefly online on here, and even I had a long chat with him.
Now, reading it I already had a few points I'd like to discuss. What did you guys think after reading that?
I believe there should've been said more about our point of view. Did it do us justice?
Was Nightcore really that underground? I mean, the millions and millions of views proofs it otherwise, right?
Anyway guys, let's discuss this.
Enforcing the cute little sister of Happy Hardcore
Re: New Nightcore Article Discussion
I love it! It's well written, just a bit too much soundcloud stuff.
Here's the 2 best sentences:
"The rules were set, and then inevitably broken a few years later when nightcore gained popularity and new channels started applying the same method to other styles outside of dance music."
"Nightcore is fast, loud, energetic and most importantly FUN. For those of us who grew up on trance and happy hardore, it feels like a return to our roots."
Here's the 2 best sentences:
"The rules were set, and then inevitably broken a few years later when nightcore gained popularity and new channels started applying the same method to other styles outside of dance music."
"Nightcore is fast, loud, energetic and most importantly FUN. For those of us who grew up on trance and happy hardore, it feels like a return to our roots."
Re: New Nightcore Article Discussion
I'll be reading it later for a proper response, but I can say already that Nightcore, at least today, is about on the same level of undeground-ness as a fairly popular meme. That is to say that it isn't underground at all since most people who aren't totally disconnected from internet culture has at least heard about it.
That might not be the case a few years ago though. It was the strong rise of fake Nightcore that really put the name on the map. When me and a few of my friends were shown Nightcore roughly 4 years ago, it was the first time we all had heard about it.
That might not be the case a few years ago though. It was the strong rise of fake Nightcore that really put the name on the map. When me and a few of my friends were shown Nightcore roughly 4 years ago, it was the first time we all had heard about it.
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I've been reading that article several times now, and I have to say, yes, nightcore really was that underground.
Sure back then, people like Maikel and Shyguyz may have had hundreds of thousands of views on their videos, but even then, nightcore was virtually unknown. There weren't as many big nightcore producers back then as there are now. Not only that, but nightcore was more confined to Youtube back then. No one in the music industry knew what it was and it didn't really spread to other sites (I don't think).
I agree with the article and with Emile's post that both say it was the fake nightcore boom of 2011-12 that made nightcore the popular thing it is today. It's a double-edged sword. Yes, the fake nightcorers are bringing more attention to the nightcore scene, but at the same time, the definition is getting blurred.
Sure back then, people like Maikel and Shyguyz may have had hundreds of thousands of views on their videos, but even then, nightcore was virtually unknown. There weren't as many big nightcore producers back then as there are now. Not only that, but nightcore was more confined to Youtube back then. No one in the music industry knew what it was and it didn't really spread to other sites (I don't think).
I agree with the article and with Emile's post that both say it was the fake nightcore boom of 2011-12 that made nightcore the popular thing it is today. It's a double-edged sword. Yes, the fake nightcorers are bringing more attention to the nightcore scene, but at the same time, the definition is getting blurred.
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To be fair, the The Original Nightcore Duo and The Youtube Scene can be compressed to be a lot shorter paragraph (see how other sites did below). And the purposes of the article ain't just introduce nightcore but also his friends and the scene on SoundCloud. It is very nice of him to include so much info about Nightcore, Maikel, KYM and NU and reached out to Maikel and me.
For underground or not I don't have much knowledge so my 2 cents below.
Compare Nightcore, Happy hardcore, Hardcore, Eurodance on Google trend
As Eurodance and Happy hardcore are considered underground now, so the word 'nightcore' was underground until 2012 that angel with shotgun went viral. (Nightcore is still undergroud now for the viral nightcore is mainstream and not nightcore)
Compare to trance too
Bonus
See Google Big Picture - Music Timeline, dance/electronic has a small share.
In Dance/Electronic, you can hardly see hardcore so hardcore don't have a big audience.
Nightocore even made its way to the timeline (with the help of time machine), kind of hilarious and sad
backups
http://imgur.com/b3LdT9A
When searched nightcore
http://imgur.com/UJLr2DP
How others sites explains what is nightore, not necessary to see
The Nightcore Club Origin of Nightcore
http://blog.thenightcore.club/post/1125 ... -nightcore
Text below
NightCored What Is Nightcore
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20130918 ... nightcore/
Text below
somewhat relevant
nightcore-331 What can be played
http://nightcore-331.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=626
With the ban on trance songs, it is pretty much 'you can't play nightcore in a nightcore plug.dj room'.
For underground or not I don't have much knowledge so my 2 cents below.
Compare Nightcore, Happy hardcore, Hardcore, Eurodance on Google trend
As Eurodance and Happy hardcore are considered underground now, so the word 'nightcore' was underground until 2012 that angel with shotgun went viral. (Nightcore is still undergroud now for the viral nightcore is mainstream and not nightcore)
Compare to trance too
Bonus
See Google Big Picture - Music Timeline, dance/electronic has a small share.
In Dance/Electronic, you can hardly see hardcore so hardcore don't have a big audience.
Nightocore even made its way to the timeline (with the help of time machine), kind of hilarious and sad
backups
http://imgur.com/b3LdT9A
http://imgur.com/UJLr2DP
The Nightcore Club Origin of Nightcore
http://blog.thenightcore.club/post/1125 ... -nightcore
Text below
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20130918 ... nightcore/
Text below
nightcore-331 What can be played
http://nightcore-331.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=626
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I'm also interested in the interviews. I get the feeling there's a lot of interesting talk inbetween.
Lately people from this site have been making an impact in the Nightcore definition by spreading it to KYM and DI.FM. We've been on the front seat eventhough our numbers are greatly overshadowed by people who don't follow our defined sound.
Soundcloud is not really a community that be taken lightly. And I must admit, it's weird to see something develop without our guidence.
I was hoping for a bit more validation in this article. For someone who has discovered Nightcore for only two years now, some points seemed a bit underresearched. Things like why there is no Wikipedia page.
I wonder of any of these points were discussed during interviews also.
Lately people from this site have been making an impact in the Nightcore definition by spreading it to KYM and DI.FM. We've been on the front seat eventhough our numbers are greatly overshadowed by people who don't follow our defined sound.
Soundcloud is not really a community that be taken lightly. And I must admit, it's weird to see something develop without our guidence.
I was hoping for a bit more validation in this article. For someone who has discovered Nightcore for only two years now, some points seemed a bit underresearched. Things like why there is no Wikipedia page.
I wonder of any of these points were discussed during interviews also.
Enforcing the cute little sister of Happy Hardcore
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As the interview goes, my part isn't too interesting so I will disclose mine.
And well if you google enough, you will find so much is going on about nightcore around the world, even a scam by a guy in Singapore claimed he to be the CEO of Nightcore and scam friends' money, google "nightcore ceo" should do but the article is in Chinese. So it is really not much we can do other than doing KYM, wikia, uploading/sharing songs.
Eg There is a thread of helping identifying nightcore songs in the Chinese nightcore Baidu Tieba (a forum platform) because there was a flood of new thread asking 'what is this song/where to download'. The reason why people don't know the songs is because they are reupload and/or used in LoL videos. And only a few out of few dozens of requests are nightcore, others are mostly NightcoreReality songs.
I youtube-mp3 for them anyways and tell them the songs are not nightcore, link them di.fm/nightcore and nightcore wiki in Chinese. But TBH I do ask myself from time to time, why I am even doing this, they ain't even nightcore fans.
For points being underresearched, like the wiki one, I think it is ok not to include 'there were multiple attempts to create a wiki page but they are all speed deleted for lack of notability'. <- whether Fan Fiction knows this does not matter, the fact is we don't have a wiki page and that's enough I think.
infodump
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=%22N ... ghtcore%22
https://soundcloud.com/babeisland
https://soundcloud.com/tags/nxc
Eg There is a thread of helping identifying nightcore songs in the Chinese nightcore Baidu Tieba (a forum platform) because there was a flood of new thread asking 'what is this song/where to download'. The reason why people don't know the songs is because they are reupload and/or used in LoL videos. And only a few out of few dozens of requests are nightcore, others are mostly NightcoreReality songs.
I youtube-mp3 for them anyways and tell them the songs are not nightcore, link them di.fm/nightcore and nightcore wiki in Chinese. But TBH I do ask myself from time to time, why I am even doing this, they ain't even nightcore fans.
For points being underresearched, like the wiki one, I think it is ok not to include 'there were multiple attempts to create a wiki page but they are all speed deleted for lack of notability'. <- whether Fan Fiction knows this does not matter, the fact is we don't have a wiki page and that's enough I think.
infodump
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=%22N ... ghtcore%22
https://soundcloud.com/babeisland
https://soundcloud.com/tags/nxc
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Re: New Nightcore Article Discussion
I enjoy reading that transcript, gives a more fulfilling experience.
The KYM page has doen some great stuff, you should for sure archive the less abridged page and share it.
I must admit, it was still a nice piece of Fan Fiction, my need for complete statements does not make this unworthy of a read.
Now, if only we had some more pro-conservative nightcore articles to citate too!
The KYM page has doen some great stuff, you should for sure archive the less abridged page and share it.
I must admit, it was still a nice piece of Fan Fiction, my need for complete statements does not make this unworthy of a read.
Now, if only we had some more pro-conservative nightcore articles to citate too!
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Re: New Nightcore Article Discussion
more followups
http://nesthq.com/tag/nightcore
Interview: Ducky on nightcore | Dummy Mag
http://www.dummymag.com/features/ducky- ... -interview
http://nesthq.com/tag/nightcore
Interview: Ducky on nightcore | Dummy Mag
http://www.dummymag.com/features/ducky- ... -interview
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